Re: chroot'ed environment?

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From: Jonathan Stott <jstott@poly.phys.cwru.edu>
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> 1. It is HUGE.  It eats up tons of disk and ram space. [...]

You don't need to load the whole thing to run the scan (see below).  It's
disk space requirements are proportional to the number of hosts you plan on
scanning.

> 2. It requires installing other packages like perl.  Most hackers aren't
> able to run anything unless it's a no brainer script.  "Gee the bad thing
> is we've been hacked and someone used SATAN, the good thing is that we
> got perl5 and a web browser installed." 

Fortunately :-)
 
> 3. Since you have to use a web browser, you have to either run SATAN from
> the console (umm, really stupid hacker scanning from his own machine) or
> redirect the X Display to his own machine (still really stupid). [...]

You don't need a web browser to run the scan, the command line works
just fine.  For example
  satan -a 2 somehost
will run a 'heavy' scan against somehost without going through the
browser.  The browser becomes really handy when you want to view the
results (but even so, it's not essential - you could make do with just grep
if you were really stuck).

-JS

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From: forsythe@fiji.oc.nps.navy.mil (Carl R. Forsythe)
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Subject: Re: Technical Observations on SATAN: Issue: VMS and TCP/IP
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According to Software Test Account:
> 
> On Thu, 6 Apr 1995, Wietse Venema wrote:
> 
> >
> For some reason when I test SATAN against VMS systems running either UCX or 
> Wollongong TCP/IP stacks the systems crash. 
> 
> This seems to be true for the heavy test only.  Other potentially 
> coincidental events include:
> 	1.  First test on a given node; when system reboots and a test
> 	    is again performed a successful test seems to be made.
> 	2.  The first test uses the FQDN and the second test uses the
> 	    IP address.
> 
> I have no idea where to look? The crash logs do not reveal anything helpful.
> A message coming from SATAN says:
> 	bin/udp_scan: are we talking to a dead host or network?
> 
> NOTE: The hosts were most certainly alive prior to the test.
> 


We noticed the same thing with one of our VMS nodes that happened to 
have SATAN hit it in heavy mode. Since I am not the VMS admin I am not
sure of all the details other than the fact that the machine rebooted when
it was scanned with a heavy scan....I will forward for info as I find
it.....

-Carl

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From: "David R. Sears" <sears@eglin.af.mil>
Subject: Problem with SATAN/VMS 
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The bourne shell script 'rsh.satan' falsely reports a vulnerability on 
hosts that are running DEC VMS 6.1  This is because the OS sends the 
following message to standard output:

	UCX$RSHD - Permission denied - host IP addr

To fix, just add a test for the above string to the 'if $TEST -s 
"$tmp_file"' test in 'rsh.satan'.


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... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god
coefficient.  (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism
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        "ISO8859-6 -> ISIRI-3342 (fwd)" (Apr  7,  3:56pm)
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On Apr 7,  3:56pm, Nicholas Heer wrote:
> Subject: ISO8859-6 -> ISIRI-3342 (fwd)
> Anoosh,
>
> 	Where can I get a copy of the ISIRI-3342 code page?  I've already
> looked at tehran.stanford.edu.  Has this code page supplanted the iscii
> code page?  Is there a Persianization program that could load this code
> page into my computer in the same way Arabic DOS and Sakhr can load Arabic
> code pages?  I don't want a word processor just a code page with screen
> fonts that I could use with an editor or use to read Persian texts on
> line.
>
> 					Nicholas

I would be glad to Mail anyone the English spec. Yes ISIRI-3342 has replaced
ISCII. As to whether everyone over there uses ISIRI-3342, that is an another
story.  The producers of Persian DOS and  Sakr equivalents use their own
encoding which only they support. In fact there are about as many encoding
as there are major Persian software companies. In a few weeks I will have a
Windows viewer for ISIRI-3342 since I assume you wanted a PC solution.

regards

-anoosh


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SATAN on AIX has a similar problem.
AIX emits a permission denied that the simple test (test -s) doesn't catch

> The bourne shell script 'rsh.satan' falsely reports a vulnerability on 
> hosts that are running DEC VMS 6.1  This is because the OS sends the 
> following message to standard output:
> 
> 	UCX$RSHD - Permission denied - host IP addr
> 
> To fix, just add a test for the above string to the 'if $TEST -s 
> "$tmp_file"' test in 'rsh.satan'.



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Anyone tried running this against a non-UNIX box?? I ran it against one of 
our NT boxes. It generated an email message over 30MB (prob. more, but I 
killed it at 30MB) as a report...

Craig



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I have built ibcs-pre1.2-950308.tar.gz and successfuly run the SVR4 program
that installs my package. I cannot, however, get the package itself to run.

This may be insufficient memory but hopefully the attached trace will pin
down the cause.

In case it helps, the code was built on Dell UNIX System V.4 - x32.

Thanks,
Stephen

<6>iBCS: devtrace registered on character major 31
<7>iBCS: trace code set to 0xffffeff
<7>[194]4692 trace returns 268435199 {273}
<7>COFF: exec /d2/mstat
<7>COFF: bad filehdr magic
<7>COFF: binfmt_coff: result = -8
<7>XOUT: binfmt_xout entry: /d2/mstat
<7>XOUT: bad magic 0a3a
<7>[195]4694 open("/dev/zero", 00, 01166740)
<7>[195]4694 open returns 3 {1342297932}
<7>[196]4694 mmap(0x0, 0x1000, 0x3, 0x2, 3, 0x0)
<7>[196]4694 mmap returns 1342320640 {0}
<7>[197]4694 close(3)
<7>[197]4694 close returns 0 {3}
<7>[198]4694 mprotect(0x50000000, 116540, 0x7)
<7>[198]4694 mprotect returns 0 {576}
<7>[199]4694 mprotect(0x8048000, 75073, 0x7)
<7>[199]4694 mprotect returns 0 {75073}
<7>[200]4694 getuid()
<7>[200]4694 getuid returns 200 {200}
<7>[201]4694 getgid()
<7>[201]4694 getgid returns 200 {200}
<7>[202]4694 open("/d2/lib/libcrlib.so", 00, 012000352010)
<7>[202]4694 open returns 3 {1342321091}
<7>[203]4694 open("/dev/zero", 00, 012000352010)
<7>[203]4694 open returns 4 {1342321091}
<7>[204]4694 read(3, 0xbfffe794, 4096)
<7>[204]4694 read returns 4096 {1342321091}
<7>[205]4694 mmap(0x0, 0xb2ba4, 0x7, 0x2, 3, 0x0)
<7>[205]4694 mmap returns 1342324736 {0}
<7>[206]4694 mmap(0x500d7000, 0x6c54, 0x7, 0x12, 3, 0xb2000)
<7>[206]4694 mmap returns 1343057920 {1343057920}
<7>[207]4694 mmap(0x500de000, 0xa100, 0x7, 0x12, 4, 0x0)
<7>[207]4694 mmap returns 1343086592 {41216}
<7>[208]4694 close(4)
<7>[208]4694 close returns 0 {41216}
<7>[209]4694 close(3)
<7>[209]4694 close returns 0 {41216}
<7>[210]4695 trace(-1)
<7>[210]4695 trace returns 268435199 {1652}
<7>[211]4695 trace(0)
<7>iBCS: trace code set to 0x0

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On Thu, 6 Apr 1995, lenex wrote:

Hello All!

> Could someone reccomend a good tool for shaddowing the PW file under Linux? 
> This will be my first time setting one up so If you have a Howto that would
> also be  much appreciated.

Me too.. how about for OSF/1? or is there a good/recommended tool for 
such?

Many thanks.


Bonn
:)


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On Sat, 8 Apr 1995, Michael Shields wrote:

> >   You're allowed to run it only once, since crackers have been abusing it.
> 
> If you run it, it reports some holes, and you make some changes that
> should fix them, shouldn't you be able to run it again to make sure your
> system is now clean?

Well, it is a tradeoff.

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